This is a case where you have to look beyond the rule of law, and use human reason. My younger brother has autism. I know firsthand, how much care and guidance a young man like Selim requires.
I have no respect for the parent's, that brought Selim here illegally. Those two cold blooded losers, should be beaten loud with hickory sticks. Selim should not have to face prison time, or be thrown to the streets, because of his parent's wrong doing.
The state should continue to cover the cost, for raising Selim in a group home. Or find a solution where, he would be given the appropriate medical care and attention, in his native country of Turkey.
This is a very difficult case in which the law seems to act to the detriment of an individual. I could only act with my heart and ask for Selim to be granted legal status so he can continue receiving special care. From the start, Selim was a victim. He was abandoned by his parents. State officials should not abandon him. I do not believe state authorities would be wasting taxpayer’s money by providing a disabled person with a safe environment.
There's no cost too great when it comes to caring for someone with a disability. I know he is in the United States illegally but they should make an exception for him. I am in disbelief that they are even hesitating to take care of him just because he is an immigrant. I know it's the law but I believe that there are exceptions to every rule and he happens to be an exception in my eyes.
I believe that there has to be some kind of way that we can keep Selim here. I think this young man was just dealt a bad hand in life. He is disabled, unfortunately he had bad parents, and he was brought into this country illegally. He had no control over any of these events. Knowing this, I think that we should find a way to keep him here. It's not his fault. I think it's sad if we can't find a way to keep someone here if they had nothing to do with the situation and if they are disabled.
I believed Selim cannot defend himself in any way. He is disabled mentally and emotionally. I understand he was in the USA illegally, but he is a child that needs special care. The Authorities do not care about any one who comes here unfortunately. The young man struggled with life already and he going to suffer even a greater cost. We need to find a way to help him. It was not his fauolt to come here. He needs our help but we can't. I hope there can be another way to help him because he is disabled. -Jermaine Elliott
selim's case happens to be that of one person whose situation is publizied into something GREATER than what it really is. think of all the OTHER similar cases that no one will EVER hear of, and then think to yourself if helping one will really do any good. i agree that selim had no control over what his parents did and that he was brought to the US illegally, but if the government helps one kid, then they will HAVE to help the rest in the future. send him back to his country, and have his government HELP him out.
first of all, i was so shocked by this story. a parent of an autistic child faces alot of stress, and has to have a strong character, alot of patience, and be ready for anything. i was so angry with Selim's parents, they deserve to be the one's facing deportation, they have no heart for leaving their child like that especially, a child like Selim, who would be lost in the world being on his own.
Seriuosly, i dont think there should be much thought to this, obviusly this is a case where you take the law into your own hands. If you were to put that child out in the streets he would be lost, he has no sense of direction, he doesn't know what's going on, and on top of that he wouldn't be able to support himself.
There are millions of illegal immigrants, that they aren't deporting, why deport this child? The goverment spends alt of money on bullshit, im sure they have the money to care for Selim, there are many organizations, specifically for autism, they can ask to help Selim. Im more than positive there's something they can do!
As a citizen of this country, I would like to start off by asking a few rhetorical questions. Why was vietnam invaded? Why was Iraq "liberated" from the so-called "in-humanitary Saddam regime? One has to wonder the true hidden meaning behind certain actions.
Now lets take this poor childs case, a mentally retarded soul that is struggling to live a normal life as is, yet you have miami-dade breathing down his neck over the few dollors they are spending on him. He is an illegal imigrant? How is this the poor child's problem if his parents threw him here and left him? Or wait, you are going to tell me he was smart enough to fool the government and make it here on his own?
The real problem is that the US spends millions and billions of dollars on so-called human-right aids to foreign countries which I do not need to list, and then when a soul that made it somehow on US soil is in need of help, they want to toss him onto the street?
The only conclusion I can come to is, politics. A fairly well known american comedian once said, politicians are like diapers, they are full of **** and must be changed often.
Selim's life is at risk here. This is literally a life or death situation. He cannot possibly survive independently on the streets. Everything possible should be done in order to have Selim attain residency in the US so he can be monitored and cared for. Realisticly though, I think the second best option is to put him in jail or prison. At least there he would be fed, clothed, sheltered, and monitored. This of course should be the last resort. Forcing him into homelessless is no better than them killing him themselves!!
Although this is an unfortunate situation for Selim, I do not believe that it is our country's responsibility to take care of him and pay for his medical expenses. He is a citizen of Turkey, therefore, he should be sent back to Turkey where the government or possibly even his own family can provide the proper care for him. I agree with Jonathan, Selim's case is being publicized to something greater then it actually is. I don't think that sending the child back would be treating him like "trash" or making him homeless. He can receive the same care he receives now in his home country.
People tend to involve too much emotion into these cases and that clouds their ability to think logically. Who is to say that Selim would live a bad life if he lived in Turkey? There are also so many facts about his case that we do not know, so we can not come to a reasonable conclusion on how to rule in his case. For example, I'm sure most people do not know enough about government in Turkey to say whether or not he would be treated fairly there. And how do we know if Selim has other family members there that are willing to care for him or not? We don't. Either way, keeping him here and continuing care for him would put a burden on tax payer dollars for years. $72,000 a year for the rest of his life may not be a lot of money for his particular case but that is a lot of money coming out of our pockets.
In a perfect world, this young man's care would not be an issue. The parents would have continued to nurture the child they procreated. In the justifiable case that they or a relative would not be able to comply with this God-given task, the government would have enough resources to nourish this young man until he ceased to exist. In a perfect world, there would be no need for immigration laws and the entire human race would coexist peacefully. In a perfect world, any person would open the doors of his or her home to Selim. Needless to say, the world is not perfect. In my case, I cannot even take care of a couple of English papers, much less a disadvantaged human being. My will to live is severely diminished each time I arrive at the conclusion that every important event on this Earth is related to money. What would I do in this case? I would pray.
I was a bit shocked after reading the article. Selim obviously needs special needs and care and for the Government to put him out on the streets would be very dangerous. The Government and Immigration deals with these issues everyday, but like the article said, "He can't read or write, and speaks like a preschooler". An option would be to send him back to his country and see how their Government would handle his situation. His foster care does use our citizens' tax dollars, but we should look at him as if he was a child, not a 18-year-old person. Since an 18-year-old person would normally be able to take care of themselves, Selim cannot. Honestly, I would keep him here in the foster care because I can't imagine putting a baby in the middle of an intersection, but realistically, there is laws that people have to abide by. If Selim is the first person to be "helped" in this type of situation, then what about all the other people who fall into his category? Then the Government would have to change the rules for them as well.
To solve this issue, I believe the best option would be to send him back to his home country and see how they would take care of him, but there's a lot of fall-outs from that. They might not accept him or they would not care for him. If not that, then unfortunately, jail/prison would be the best option to keep him here and still be able to care for him and his needs.
i think that the best thing to do would be to send him back to his home country and have his family care for him, if they dont there should be services there that will.
here in the us there is nothing we can do. if he doesnt have papers he should have someone help him apply for them, other wise he has no other option but to return home.
this is a sad story indeed, but unless someone is willing to take him in and care for him out of their own pocket, no government agency will.
This story is a sad reality of the world. There are so many injustices that happen everyday all over the world but thats just how life is. I think they should send him back to Turkey. Turkey is not a third world country and should have the necessary programs in place to help Selim. The sad truth is that if we help one person then we must help everyone. It's very easy to sit back and say we should help him but with the way our economy is most of us would be unwilling to pay the taxes necessary to fix all these problems.
This is a sad case, but unfortunately sad things happen. This poor kid deserves better. If he were to be left alone he would go homeless. Seeing that his mental condition is so poor he will probably starve in the streets if left alone.
It does not matter where anyone lives but this should not be allowed to happen. If it were me I would try to find a foster home where kids like him that have no other alternative may find refuge. We can't resort to the "easy" solution of just allowing imigration to take him. Even with the economy so bad we can still find the resources from the everyday people we can always go to the wealthy. Even though they may not care there are always those looking a tax break that could help. It's a sad case that definately should not just be tossed aside. Being alone in this world can't be easy. Being alone and under the risk of deportation is horrible. Being alone,under the risk of deportation, and suffering from mental conditions is fighting against impossible odds. The judges will just have to decide if they are going to let this kid live or die.
This article was very depressing, but it shows you how our society really is. I believe if they kick out the kid from the foster home, there is no doubt in my mind that he will end up homeless. He may be eighteen years old but definitely cannot hold himself as one. This is a completely different situation and the government should look past that. He might be here illegally but what harm will he do? Just give the boy a chance, everybody needs a break.
After reading many of the answers I could reiterate what everyone has said, that the government should have to pay for this man-child to continue out his "life". But instead I will take the more 'edgy' route just for the sake of this blog.
What kind of a LIFE is he actually living? If he has the vocabulary of a preschooler and is essentially an infant in an adults body, whats the point? Some older people without disabilities actually ask for a DNR when they become in a vegetable like state, which basically means,"If I stop breathing and risk becoming a vegetable if you save my life, i dont want that life, so please dont bother keeping me alive."
Now I am not as heartless as this response makes me seem, by all means I would want Selim to live a happy long life.. but again, for the sake of the argument I'll go on.
Natural selection is something that occurs, well, naturally... Its when the weak, slow, fat, and old die off because they cant fend for themselves... and because they get eaten... It keeps food consumption down in the wild and is actually a pretty good system when you think about it. So why are we keeping him alive? Is it to refrain from being BAD people? Why not let him go play in traffic, he IS 18 afterall, technically old enough to make his own decisions.. and why should tax dollars go to paying for this man-child to continue on?
A smart, yet less humane way of dealing with the dissabilities of the world is to: Wrather than continue to support those who are dissabled, we focus our time, energy, and FUNDS into curing these various dissabilities (ie. autism, tourettes, etc.) and cure everyone thereafter. Sure, there would be some casualties, err, collateral.. but that's life. I might be stealing this from a movie or two but sacrifice a few for the greater good.
When you think of it this way you have to agree: Whats better? Keep supporting the people with disorders or cure them? Curing them is surely the better option, but wait, then your morals kick in and you think about the flipside of the whole curing coin.. which is the loss of a few thousand people with disabilities.
When its one of the two options: Cure them or Support them.. You'd want to cure them. In a world where you can't have both, you'd sacrifice thousands of lives but inevitably its the right choice because it gives the future victims of these disabilities the chance at a real life.
If his mother can walk out on him and leave him to be cared for by other people then surely we can turn the other way and act as if we never read this article... cant we? Like it or not crap like this happens on a daily basis and we have no idea... or do we choose to have no idea? It makes you wonder doesnt it? Why bother yourself with the well being of a total stranger when you can focus on more important things, right?
Again I say, I'm not some evil person who has no consideration for life, I do care and I have a second cousin that has autism due to having a shot at the age of 3 that contained mercury... I'm simply showing the other side to this argument for the sake of this blog.
Hope you enjoyed reading a more warped view on the topic.
This is a very sad story. Like this one, there are many other cases were children that come here illegally face hard times. One cannot forget the case with Elian Gonzalez, and many others. The biggest problem here is that this kid is not capable of taking care of himself. he is rerarded and has autism. One thing is the law, another thing is helping a person with severe needs. Illegal or not, he has needs that must be met.
I actually just had an argument with my friend about homelessness. He says that being homeless is a natural selection, "survival of the fittest", but I disagree. I believe everyone deserves to have a chance at life. There has to be a way to protect those who can't afford to be on their own, especially those who never had a chance to begin with. Welfare, of course, is an attempt to make ends meet but in the way the economy is collapsing it is not enough.
The cost of life compared to the true cost of life is different to me. Life nowadays is expensive but is it worth someone's life. Once again, we all deserve a chance. Human life is amazing and we should aid everyone to live it to the fullest. Not all of us have money but we could all still be happy as long as we have something to fall back on.
I personally believe that they shouldn't take him out of the system. Who cares if he is not young enough to be allowed to stay. Mentally he cannot provide and care for himself. But this opens up the door for many other children that cannot normally function in a society because of mental disabilities to "feed off" of the government. Either way, in this case letting him out of the system is not an option, if they do they neglect their responsibilities as care takers. There has to be a way to help people like him to be introduced to how a society functions. Maybe programs could be implemented..?
This is a case where you have to look beyond the rule of law, and use human reason. My younger brother has autism. I know firsthand, how much care and guidance a young man like Selim requires.
ReplyDeleteI have no respect for the parent's, that brought Selim here illegally. Those two cold blooded losers, should be beaten loud with hickory sticks. Selim should not have to face prison time, or be thrown to the streets, because of his parent's wrong doing.
The state should continue to cover the cost, for raising Selim in a group home. Or find a solution where, he would be given the appropriate medical care and attention, in his native country of Turkey.
Raul B
This is a very difficult case in which the law seems to act to the detriment of an individual. I could only act with my heart and ask for Selim to be granted legal status so he can continue receiving special care. From the start, Selim was a victim. He was abandoned by his parents. State officials should not abandon him. I do not believe state authorities would be wasting taxpayer’s money by providing a disabled person with a safe environment.
ReplyDelete-Rosa Corrales Rodriguez
There's no cost too great when it comes to caring for someone with a disability. I know he is in the United States illegally but they should make an exception for him. I am in disbelief that they are even hesitating to take care of him just because he is an immigrant. I know it's the law but I believe that there are exceptions to every rule and he happens to be an exception in my eyes.
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I believe that there has to be some kind of way that we can keep Selim here. I think this young man was just dealt a bad hand in life. He is disabled, unfortunately he had bad parents, and he was brought into this country illegally. He had no control over any of these events. Knowing this, I think that we should find a way to keep him here. It's not his fault. I think it's sad if we can't find a way to keep someone here if they had nothing to do with the situation and if they are disabled.
ReplyDeleteI believed Selim cannot defend himself in any way. He is disabled mentally and emotionally. I understand he was in the USA illegally, but he is a child that needs special care. The Authorities do not care about any one who comes here unfortunately. The young man struggled with life already and he going to suffer even a greater cost. We need to find a way to help him. It was not his fauolt to come here. He needs our help but we can't. I hope there can be another way to help him because he is disabled.
ReplyDelete-Jermaine Elliott
selim's case happens to be that of one person whose situation is publizied into something GREATER than what it really is. think of all the OTHER similar cases that no one will EVER hear of, and then think to yourself if helping one will really do any good. i agree that selim had no control over what his parents did and that he was brought to the US illegally, but if the government helps one kid, then they will HAVE to help the rest in the future. send him back to his country, and have his government HELP him out.
ReplyDeleteJonathan
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ReplyDeletefirst of all, i was so shocked by this story. a parent of an autistic child faces alot of stress, and has to have a strong character, alot of patience, and be ready for anything. i was so angry with Selim's parents, they deserve to be the one's facing deportation, they have no heart for leaving their child like that especially, a child like Selim, who would be lost in the world being on his own.
ReplyDeleteSeriuosly, i dont think there should be much thought to this, obviusly this is a case where you take the law into your own hands. If you were to put that child out in the streets he would be lost, he has no sense of direction, he doesn't know what's going on, and on top of that he wouldn't be able to support himself.
There are millions of illegal immigrants, that they aren't deporting, why deport this child? The goverment spends alt of money on bullshit, im sure they have the money to care for Selim, there are many organizations, specifically for autism, they can ask to help Selim. Im more than positive there's something they can do!
As a citizen of this country, I would like to start off by asking a few rhetorical questions. Why was vietnam invaded? Why was Iraq "liberated" from the so-called "in-humanitary Saddam regime? One has to wonder the true hidden meaning behind certain actions.
ReplyDeleteNow lets take this poor childs case, a mentally retarded soul that is struggling to live a normal life as is, yet you have miami-dade breathing down his neck over the few dollors they are spending on him. He is an illegal imigrant? How is this the poor child's problem if his parents threw him here and left him? Or wait, you are going to tell me he was smart enough to fool the government and make it here on his own?
The real problem is that the US spends millions and billions of dollars on so-called human-right aids to foreign countries which I do not need to list, and then when a soul that made it somehow on US soil is in need of help, they want to toss him onto the street?
The only conclusion I can come to is, politics. A fairly well known american comedian once said, politicians are like diapers, they are full of **** and must be changed often.
-Humood Aljassar
Selim's life is at risk here. This is literally a life or death situation. He cannot possibly survive independently on the streets. Everything possible should be done in order to have Selim attain residency in the US so he can be monitored and cared for. Realisticly though, I think the second best option is to put him in jail or prison. At least there he would be fed, clothed, sheltered, and monitored. This of course should be the last resort. Forcing him into homelessless is no better than them killing him themselves!!
ReplyDeleteAlthough this is an unfortunate situation for Selim, I do not believe that it is our country's responsibility to take care of him and pay for his medical expenses. He is a citizen of Turkey, therefore, he should be sent back to Turkey where the government or possibly even his own family can provide the proper care for him.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jonathan, Selim's case is being publicized to something greater then it actually is. I don't think that sending the child back would be treating him like "trash" or making him homeless. He can receive the same care he receives now in his home country.
People tend to involve too much emotion into these cases and that clouds their ability to think logically. Who is to say that Selim would live a bad life if he lived in Turkey? There are also so many facts about his case that we do not know, so we can not come to a reasonable conclusion on how to rule in his case. For example, I'm sure most people do not know enough about government in Turkey to say whether or not he would be treated fairly there. And how do we know if Selim has other family members there that are willing to care for him or not? We don't. Either way, keeping him here and continuing care for him would put a burden on tax payer dollars for years. $72,000 a year for the rest of his life may not be a lot of money for his particular case but that is a lot of money coming out of our pockets.
btw ^^^
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In a perfect world, this young man's care would not be an issue. The parents would have continued to nurture the child they procreated. In the justifiable case that they or a relative would not be able to comply with this God-given task, the government would have enough resources to nourish this young man until he ceased to exist. In a perfect world, there would be no need for immigration laws and the entire human race would coexist peacefully. In a perfect world, any person would open the doors of his or her home to Selim. Needless to say, the world is not perfect. In my case, I cannot even take care of a couple of English papers, much less a disadvantaged human being. My will to live is severely diminished each time I arrive at the conclusion that every important event on this Earth is related to money. What would I do in this case? I would pray.
ReplyDelete-Jazel Morffe
I was a bit shocked after reading the article. Selim obviously needs special needs and care and for the Government to put him out on the streets would be very dangerous. The Government and Immigration deals with these issues everyday, but like the article said, "He can't read or write, and speaks like a preschooler". An option would be to send him back to his country and see how their Government would handle his situation. His foster care does use our citizens' tax dollars, but we should look at him as if he was a child, not a 18-year-old person. Since an 18-year-old person would normally be able to take care of themselves, Selim cannot. Honestly, I would keep him here in the foster care because I can't imagine putting a baby in the middle of an intersection, but realistically, there is laws that people have to abide by. If Selim is the first person to be "helped" in this type of situation, then what about all the other people who fall into his category? Then the Government would have to change the rules for them as well.
ReplyDeleteTo solve this issue, I believe the best option would be to send him back to his home country and see how they would take care of him, but there's a lot of fall-outs from that. They might not accept him or they would not care for him. If not that, then unfortunately, jail/prison would be the best option to keep him here and still be able to care for him and his needs.
- tiffany.
i think that the best thing to do would be to send him back to his home country and have his family care for him, if they dont there should be services there that will.
ReplyDeletehere in the us there is nothing we can do. if he doesnt have papers he should have someone help him apply for them, other wise he has no other option but to return home.
this is a sad story indeed, but unless someone is willing to take him in and care for him out of their own pocket, no government agency will.
-amy
This story is a sad reality of the world. There are so many injustices that happen everyday all over the world but thats just how life is. I think they should send him back to Turkey. Turkey is not a third world country and should have the necessary programs in place to help Selim. The sad truth is that if we help one person then we must help everyone. It's very easy to sit back and say we should help him but with the way our economy is most of us would be unwilling to pay the taxes necessary to fix all these problems.
ReplyDeleteThis is a sad case, but unfortunately sad things happen. This poor kid deserves better. If he were to be left alone he would go homeless. Seeing that his mental condition is so poor he will probably starve in the streets if left alone.
ReplyDeleteIt does not matter where anyone lives but this should not be allowed to happen. If it were me I would try to find a foster home where kids like him that have no other alternative may find refuge. We can't resort to the "easy" solution of just allowing imigration to take him. Even with the economy so bad we can still find the resources from the everyday people we can always go to the wealthy. Even though they may not care there are always those looking a tax break that could help. It's a sad case that definately should not just be tossed aside. Being alone in this world can't be easy. Being alone and under the risk of deportation is horrible. Being alone,under the risk of deportation, and suffering from mental conditions is fighting against impossible odds. The judges will just have to decide if they are going to let this kid live or die.
This article was very depressing, but it shows you how our society really is. I believe if they kick out the kid from the foster home, there is no doubt in my mind that he will end up homeless. He may be eighteen years old but definitely cannot hold himself as one. This is a completely different situation and the government should look past that. He might be here illegally but what harm will he do? Just give the boy a chance, everybody needs a break.
ReplyDeleteManny Nunez
After reading many of the answers I could reiterate what everyone has said, that the government should have to pay for this man-child to continue out his "life". But instead I will take the more 'edgy' route just for the sake of this blog.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of a LIFE is he actually living? If he has the vocabulary of a preschooler and is essentially an infant in an adults body, whats the point? Some older people without disabilities actually ask for a DNR when they become in a vegetable like state, which basically means,"If I stop breathing and risk becoming a vegetable if you save my life, i dont want that life, so please dont bother keeping me alive."
Now I am not as heartless as this response makes me seem, by all means I would want Selim to live a happy long life.. but again, for the sake of the argument I'll go on.
Natural selection is something that occurs, well, naturally... Its when the weak, slow, fat, and old die off because they cant fend for themselves... and because they get eaten... It keeps food consumption down in the wild and is actually a pretty good system when you think about it. So why are we keeping him alive? Is it to refrain from being BAD people? Why not let him go play in traffic, he IS 18 afterall, technically old enough to make his own decisions.. and why should tax dollars go to paying for this man-child to continue on?
A smart, yet less humane way of dealing with the dissabilities of the world is to: Wrather than continue to support those who are dissabled, we focus our time, energy, and FUNDS into curing these various dissabilities (ie. autism, tourettes, etc.) and cure everyone thereafter. Sure, there would be some casualties, err, collateral.. but that's life. I might be stealing this from a movie or two but sacrifice a few for the greater good.
When you think of it this way you have to agree: Whats better? Keep supporting the people with disorders or cure them? Curing them is surely the better option, but wait, then your morals kick in and you think about the flipside of the whole curing coin.. which is the loss of a few thousand people with disabilities.
When its one of the two options: Cure them or Support them.. You'd want to cure them. In a world where you can't have both, you'd sacrifice thousands of lives but inevitably its the right choice because it gives the future victims of these disabilities the chance at a real life.
If his mother can walk out on him and leave him to be cared for by other people then surely we can turn the other way and act as if we never read this article... cant we? Like it or not crap like this happens on a daily basis and we have no idea... or do we choose to have no idea? It makes you wonder doesnt it? Why bother yourself with the well being of a total stranger when you can focus on more important things, right?
Again I say, I'm not some evil person who has no consideration for life, I do care and I have a second cousin that has autism due to having a shot at the age of 3 that contained mercury... I'm simply showing the other side to this argument for the sake of this blog.
Hope you enjoyed reading a more warped view on the topic.
-Chris M
This is a very sad story. Like this one, there are many other cases were children that come here illegally face hard times. One cannot forget the case with Elian Gonzalez, and many others. The biggest problem here is that this kid is not capable of taking care of himself. he is rerarded and has autism. One thing is the law, another thing is helping a person with severe needs. Illegal or not, he has needs that must be met.
ReplyDeleteI actually just had an argument with my friend about homelessness. He says that being homeless is a natural selection, "survival of the fittest", but I disagree. I believe everyone deserves to have a chance at life. There has to be a way to protect those who can't afford to be on their own, especially those who never had a chance to begin with. Welfare, of course, is an attempt to make ends meet but in the way the economy is collapsing it is not enough.
ReplyDeleteThe cost of life compared to the true cost of life is different to me. Life nowadays is expensive but is it worth someone's life. Once again, we all deserve a chance. Human life is amazing and we should aid everyone to live it to the fullest. Not all of us have money but we could all still be happy as long as we have something to fall back on.
I personally believe that they shouldn't take him out of the system. Who cares if he is not young enough to be allowed to stay. Mentally he cannot provide and care for himself. But this opens up the door for many other children that cannot normally function in a society because of mental disabilities to "feed off" of the government. Either way, in this case letting him out of the system is not an option, if they do they neglect their responsibilities as care takers. There has to be a way to help people like him to be introduced to how a society functions. Maybe programs could be implemented..?
ReplyDelete- Margaux